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her 4 eksempler på at det ikke kun er hos Paulus og Berdyaev og HansKrist og Paul Tillich vi finder: creative ecstasy shatters the whole of man's being (indre katastrofe = shatters the whole of man's being) (se det med rød skrift):

Indre Katastrofe: DISRUPTIVE CREATIVE ACT OF THE SPIRIT:

There is nothing of God in the dull and prosaic normality of the objective world order. It is only in a disruptive act which breaks through that commonplace normality that he is to be found. Nicolai Berdyaev

What is of God in life is revealed in creative acts, in the creative life of the spirit, which penetrates even the life of nature. Spirit can upset and change the 'natural' order. Nicolai Berdyaev


Om den PAULINSKE ECSTATIC DIVINE SPIRIT CHRISTHOLOGY - den paulinske EKSTATISKE form for SPIRITUALITET -

om den SPIRITUALITET vi finder hos Paulus - om den må vi sige sammen med Joe Loizzo (og Thomas og Arne Thomsen og folk flest):

1):

"Here, we’ve entered a realm that seems utterly removed from the ascetic calm we think of as essential to meditation , Buddhist or not" (A)*


(A)*:

Citat:
Joe Loizzo. Ecstatic Altruism: The Secret Contemplative Art and Science of Tibet:

This brings us to the last and most essential feature of Tantric Buddhism: its reliance on euphoric and ecstatic states to help deepen and speed the work of meditative self-analysis and self-transformation. Here, we’ve entered a realm that seems utterly removed from the ascetic calm we think of as essential to meditation, Buddhist or not, a realm more akin to the otherworldly states of mystics like Saint Theresa of Avila or Saint John of the Cross. Yet the Tibetan take on these states is neither mystifying nor saintly but quite scientific and down-to-earth.

Akin to normal alterations of consciousness like dreamless sleep, orgasm or near-death states, meditation-induced flow states and natural highs can be harnessed to deepen and speed emotional healing and profound transformation. By disarming our minds and nervous systems and priming them for plasticity and learning, such states can empower us to break free of traumatic memories and stress reactions so we can fully realize radical open-mindedness and embody caring responsiveness. Once we’ve mastered this deep, transformational art, we’re free to awaken our native genius for ecstatic openness and to fuel it with our natural spirits of euphoric altruism, gradually forging them into the inspired mind and nervous system of a master altruist.

While the exotic Buddhism of Tibet sees mindfulness and lovingkindness as the foundation of any contemplative life, it also preserves meditative power-tools expressly designed for contemplative life in a stress-driven world. Among these, the role-modeling arts and blissful neuroscience of the Tantras offer what may be the quickest, most effective way to bring contemplative clarity and pure passion to our demanding lifestyle. Given the right guidance and step-by-step system of practice, the ecstatic Buddhism of Tibet offers us an exceptional path of altruistic vision and inspired leadership that may well help us shift the balance of global consciousness toward lasting peace and sustainable happiness before its too late. Citat slut



2):

Jeg vil gerne selvbiografisk tilstå at fordi jeg afviger så meget fra vor tids New Age mindfulness meditation's ascetic calm "spiritualitet": the ascetic calm we think of as essential to meditation - er jeg blevet nærmest smidt ud af (eller kommet i konflikt med) samtlige progressive spirituelle vækst samfund i Danmark og eneste sted jeg har følt mig hjemme er i OSHO bevægelsen (Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh).


3):


det er en kendt sag bevidnet gennem litteratur at millioner af mennesker gennem to tusinder år har haft OMVENDELSES erfaringer som en indre katastrofe - William James "Religiøse Erfaringer" gennemgår dette.


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4):

Den Paulinske i Kristus Spiritualitet er ENTREPRENANT KREATIVITET:

Creativeness is neither permitted nor justified by religion - creativeness is itselv religion. Creative experience is a special kind of experience and a special kind of way: the creative ecstasy shatters the whole of man's being - it is an out-breaking into another world

Hele den vestlige sekulære kultur bygger på den form for paulinsk enterepreant karismatisk kreativitet spiritualitet vi har fra Paulus, måske det ses tydeligst hos de mest kreative kunstnere (især kreative musikere) og selvstændige erhvervsdrivende og originale videnskabsfolk og absolut verdenselite sportsfolk.



The coming Christ will never appear to him who by his own free effort has not revealed within himself the other, the creative image of man (Thus is revealed man's spontaneity and autonomy in creativeness, man's free activity on the way to the Coming Christ. Only the courage of free creativeness will bring man to the Coming Christ, prepare man for a vision of another image af the Absolut Man. And if great obedience is needed for redemption for creativeness there is needed great courage. ..

The third creative revelation in the Spirit will have no holy scripture ; it will be no voice from on high; it will be accomplished in man and in humanity - it is an anthropological revelation, an unveiling of the Christology of man . God awaits the anthropological revelation from man and man cannot expect to have it from God. And one cannot merely wait for the third revelation; man must accomplish it himself, living in the Spirit; accomplish it by a free, creative act. In this act everything transcendent will become immanent.

The third anthropological revelation, in which the creative mystery of man will be revealed, is man's final freedom. Man is quite free in the revelation of his creativeness. In this fearful freedom lies all the god-like dignity of man, and his dread responsibility. The virtue of accepting a dangerous position, the virtue of daring to do, is the basic virtue of the creative epoch. MCA



Christianity makes God immanent in human nature and hence cannot admit a completely transcendent separation between this world and the next. MCA

Creativeness is neither permitted nor justified by religion - creativeness is itselv religion. Creative experience is a special kind of experience and a special kind of way: the creative ecstasy shatters the whole of man's being - it is an out-breaking into another world. .. The creative experience is unique and self-sufficient - it is not something derivative; its roots go into the deepest depths. .. Creativeness is the final revelation of the Holy Trinity - its anthropological revelation. This is a consciousness which has never existed in the world - it is being born in our epoch.

DISRUPTIVE CREATIVE ACT OF THE SPIRIT

There is nothing of God in the dull and prosaic normality of the objective world order. It is only in a disruptive act which breaks through that commonplace normality that he is to be found. Nicolai Berdyaev

What is of God in life is revealed in creative acts, in the creative life of the spirit, which penetrates even the life of nature. Spirit can upset and change the 'natural' order (2)*. Nicolai Berdyaev

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"Here, we’ve entered a realm that seems utterly removed from the ascetic calm

we think of as essential to meditation
, Buddhist or not"


de fleste mennesker forbinder spiritualitet med: the ascetic calm we think of as essential to meditation

Det være sig Tikka, Thomas og Arne


Men den paulinske form for spiritualitet jeg præsenterer jer for og som Arne ikke forstår den er lige så udbredt, men den findes som sagt mest i den sekulære kultur:
den vestlige sekulære kultur bygger på den form for paulinsk enterepreant karismatisk kreativitet spiritualitet vi har fra Paulus, måske det ses tydeligst hos de mest kreative kunstnere (især kreative musikere) og selvstændige erhvervsdrivende og originale videnskabsfolk og absolut verdenselite sportsfolk.
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