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#14131 - 19/11/2012 16:26 Re: Den Evige Filosofi [Re: Arne Thomsen]
Thomas
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Kære Arne,

Citat:
Tak for din udlægning.

Jeg fandt tilfældigvis netop i dag en lidt lignende, som jeg egentlig synes godt om:

Citat:
Fra tidernes begyndelse er den evige Tanke, og Tanken er Ordet, og Ordet er Handlingen, og disse tre er ét i den evige Lov; og Loven er hos Gud, og Loven udgår fra Gud. Ved Loven er alle ting skabt, og uden den er intet skabt. I Ordet er liv og indhold, ilden og lyset. Kærlighed og visdom er ét til frelse for alle. Ordet er den ene livgivende ild*, som skinner ind i verden og bliver det prægtige og lyset i hver sjæl, som kommer til verden. Jeg er i verden, og verden er i mig, og verden ved det ikke. Jeg kommer til mit eget hus, og mine venner modtager mig ikke. Men så mange som modtager og adlyder, til dem gives kraften til at blive Guds sønner og døtre, og til dem, som tror på det hellige navn, som er fødte -ikke al kød og blods vilje, men af Gud. Og Ordet blev legemliggjort og boede blandt os, og vi så hans herlighed, fuld al nåde. Se Guds godhed, sandhed og skønhed!


* JEREMIAS 5,14: "Fordi I siger dette ord, se, derfor gør jeg mine ord i din mund til ild og dette folk til brænde, som ild skal fortære."Citater er jo fra Urevangeliet

(Dem, der ikke kan udholde ordet: Gud, kan vel i stedet læse "altings årsag")


Det må jeg sige! Interessant smiler Og når du i en anden tråd skriver:

Citat:
Men den historiske side af sagen - når det drejer sig omkring religiøse skrifter - forekommer mig at være ret uinteressant.
For mig er det indholdet, idéerne, der er det spændende.
(Jeg spø'r jo heller ikke om, hvor Torneroses slot befandt sig eller nøjagtig hvornår, hun stak sig på tenen).


... SÃ¥ er jeg helt enig. Jeg har selv forskellige skrifter, hvoraf jeg nyder mange af dem. Og ja, for mig handler det om, at ordene taler til hjertet, hvordan de end er kommet i stand.

Fred,
Thomas
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#14143 - 23/11/2012 16:13 Re: Den Evige Filosofi [Re: Arne Thomsen]
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"Gud, kan vel i stedet læse "altings årsag".


- Ak og vé - nogen gjorde det bedre:

The Lady Of Chalott -
af A. Tennyson.

Part I.


On either side the river lie
Long fields of barley and of rye,
That clothe the wold and meet the sky;
And thro' the field the road runs by
To many-tower'd Camelot;
And up and down the people go,
Gazing where the lilies blow
Round an island there below,
The island of Shalott.

Willows whiten, aspens quiver,
Little breezes dusk and shiver
Thro' the wave that runs for ever
By the island in the river
Flowing down to Camelot.
Four gray walls, and four gray towers,
Overlook a space of flowers,
And the silent isle imbowers
The Lady of Shalott.

By the margin, willow-veil'd
Slide the heavy barges trail'd
By slow horses; and unhail'd
The shallop flitteth silken-sail'd
Skimming down to Camelot:
But who hath seen her wave her hand?
Or at the casement seen her stand?
Or is she known in all the land,
The Lady of Shalott?

Only reapers, reaping early
In among the bearded barley,
Hear a song that echoes cheerly
From the river winding clearly,
Down to tower'd Camelot:
And by the moon the reaper weary,
Piling sheaves in uplands airy,
Listening, whispers "'Tis the fairy
Lady of Shalott."


Part II.

There she weaves by night and day
A magic web with colours gay.
She has heard a whisper say,
A curse is on her if she stay
To look down to Camelot.
She knows not what the curse may be,
And so she weaveth steadily,
And little other care hath she,
The Lady of Shalott.

And moving thro' a mirror clear
That hangs before her all the year,
Shadows of the world appear.
There she sees the highway near
Winding down to Camelot:
There the river eddy whirls,
And there the surly village-churls,
And the red cloaks of market girls,
Pass onward from Shalott.

Sometimes a troop of damsels glad,
An abbot on an ambling pad,
Sometimes a curly shepherd-lad,
Or long-hair'd page in crimson clad,
Goes by to tower'd Camelot;
And sometimes thro' the mirror blue
The knights come riding two and two:
She hath no loyal knight and true,
The Lady of Shalott.

But in her web she still delights
To weave the mirror's magic sights,
For often thro' the silent nights
A funeral, with plumes and lights
And music, went to Camelot:
Or when the moon was overhead,
Came two young lovers lately wed;
"I am half-sick of shadows," said
The Lady of Shalott.


Part III.

A bow-shot from her bower-eaves,
He rode between the barley-sheaves,
The sun came dazzling thro' the leaves,
And flamed upon the brazen greaves
Of bold Sir Lancelot.
A redcross knight for ever kneel'd
To a lady in his shield,
That sparkled on the yellow field,
Beside remote Shalott.

The gemmy bridle glitter'd free,
Like to some branch of stars we see
Hung in the golden Galaxy.
The bridle-bells rang merrily
As he rode down to Camelot:
And from his blazon'd baldric slung
A mighty silver bugle hung,
And as he rode his armour rung,
Beside remote Shalott.

All in the blue unclouded weather
Thick-jewell'd shone the saddle-leather,
The helmet and the helmet-feather
Burn'd like one burning flame together,
As he rode down to Camelot.
As often thro' the purple night,
Below the starry clusters bright,
Some bearded meteor, trailing light,
Moves over still Shalott.

His broad clear brow in sunlight glow'd;
On burnish'd hooves his war-horse trode;
From underneath his helmet flow'd
His coal-black curls as on he rode,
As he rode down to Camelot.
From the bank and from the river
He flash'd into the crystal mirror,
"Tirra lirra," by the river
Sang Sir Lancelot.

She left the web, she left the loom,
She made three paces thro' the room,
She saw the water-lily bloom,
She saw the helmet and the plume,
She look'd down to Camelot.
Out flew the web and floated wide;
The mirror crack'd from side to side;
"The curse is come upon me," cried
The Lady of Shalott.


Part IV.

In the stormy east-wind straining,
The pale-yellow woods were waning,
The broad stream in his banks complaining,
Heavily the low sky raining
Over tower'd Camelot;
Down she came and found a boat
Beneath a willow left afloat,
And round about the prow she wrote
The Lady of Shalott.

And down the river's dim expanse--
Like some bold seër in a trance,
Seeing all his own mischance--
With a glassy countenance
Did she look to Camelot.
And at the closing of the day
She loosed the chain, and down she lay;
The broad stream bore her far away,
The Lady of Shalott.

Lying, robed in snowy white
That loosely flew to left and right--
The leaves upon her falling light--
Thro' the noises of the night
She floated down to Camelot:
And as the boat-head wound along
The willowy hills and fields among,
They heard her singing her last song,
The Lady of Shalott.

Heard a carol, mournful, holy,
Chanted loudly, chanted lowly,
Till her blood was frozen slowly,
And her eyes were darken'd wholly,
Turn'd to tower'd Camelot;
For ere she reach'd upon the tide
The first house by the water-side,
Singing in her song she died,
The Lady of Shalott.

Under tower and balcony,
By garden-wall and gallery,
A gleaming shape she floated by,
A corse between the houses high,
Silent into Camelot.
Out upon the wharfs they came,
Knight and burgher, lord and dame,
And round the prow they read her name,
The Lady of Shalott.

Who is this? and what is here?
And in the lighted palace near
Died the sound of royal cheer;
And they cross'd themselves for fear,
All the knights at Camelot:
But Lancelot mused a little space;
He said, "She has a lovely face;
God in his mercy lend her grace,
The Lady of Shalott."


mvh
Simon
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#14144 - 23/11/2012 17:12 Re: Den Evige Filosofi [Re: Simon]
ole bjørn Offline
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Dette her af Tennyson passer nok bedre til Hansemands og andres manglende lyst til at flytte sig fra deres "havnekaj".

Crossing the Bar.

Sunset and evening star,
And one clear call for me!
And may there be no moaning at the bar,
When I put out to sea.

But such a tide as moving seems asleep,
Too full for sound and foam,
When that which drew from out the boundless deep
Turns again home.

Twilight and evening bell,
And after that the dark!
And may there be no sadness of farewell,
When I embark;

For though from out our bourne of Time and Place
The flood may bear me far,
I hope to see my Pilot face to face,
When I have crost the bar.


:o)

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#14145 - 23/11/2012 18:32 Re: Den Evige Filosofi [Re: ole bjørn]
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...pragtfuldt! ;)

Der er kløft af melankoli i disse rytmespil, der aldrig afblomstrer, sikke stykker! - stykket dér, må være fra In Memoriam, skr. efter vennen Hallams død i Venedig.
Gennem dybe påvirkninger fra det modsætningsfyldte viktorianske Britania, splittes han mellem ansvaret for sine sanser og sin egen fornuft, og forblir Keats og sine tidlige udtryksformer tro indtil sin død.

mvh
Simon
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#14146 - 23/11/2012 21:13 Re: Den Evige Filosofi [Re: Simon]
ole bjørn Offline
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Næh, Simon, det er fra "Demeter and Other Poems" fra 1889, og han insisterede i sine sidste år på, at det skulle medtages som slutning på alle hans udgivelser.

:o)

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